Oh. You're not all me after all, are you.
Dec. 25th, 2004 02:55 amThe problem with statements that are trivially true in most cases is that in those cases where they're not, they tend to be very not true, and for very non-trivial reasons -- but that because they're so obviously true in so many cases, it can be difficult to identify or admit those where the statement doesn't apply.
(The above statement may itself be trivially true in most cases. The author chooses instead to invoke another time-honored principle and leave the proof as an exercise for the reader.)
So. The trivially true statement for this evening's exercise is: I tend to become friends with people who think along the same lines as I do.
If you were to chart out my friends based on the relative strengths of their Myers-Briggs types -- ignoring for the moment the conceptual difficulties of plotting anything in 4-space -- you'd see heavy clustering in the NT part of the graph. I suspect there would also be a strong tendency toward introversion, though I don't have any intuitions about how the P/J distribution would shake out. This is not too surprising; I generally test out as INTJ, but have come up INTP in the past. I find it easier to get along with people who tend toward detached evaluation. Big shocker, right? Right. The same can be said for hobbies and interests; throw me in a room with a bunch of random people, and as long as they're all talking, I'll find the hacker/gamer/libertarian/writer/what-have-you within a matter of minutes.
This is all, as I said, trivial.
I was lucky, in high school and my undergraduate years, to happen across people who had similar attitudes to mine not only in what they thought, but how they thought. I found friends who discovered patterns quickly; who had a talent for rapidly identifying the core questions in an essay, a math problem, a psychological situation, what-have-you; who enjoyed both the process of finding answers and the satisfaction of having-found. These people have become far, far rarer over the years, and the ones who don't have this mongoose-like ("Go and find out!" -- it's a Kipling reference) attitude often don't even understand what it is that's different between me and them. (When my last relationship ended, the ex in question remarked on our lack of "common interests" as a way of explaining to himself why we split up. On the surface, the assessment is accurate -- but it's such a surface assessment that just thinking about it makes me feel a bit sad.)
I don't click with a lot of people, but the ones with whom I feel the deepest kinship are my fellow mongeese. Mongooses. Whatever. It's comforting, this feeling of sameness; my brain recognises people-who-think-like-me as nonthreatening, as people around whom I don't have to keep my guard up, people to whom I don't have to explain my motivations because they already intuitively make sense.
The non-trivial bit is one of degree. (I really should have said "usually already intuitively make sense," above.) Rabbit holes (cobra holes?) may go down a long damn way, sometimes forever, and everyone stops at different places. My stopping points are never going to be identical to another person's stopping points, even if our sets have a large intersection, and it's especially jarring when I discover a point that I don't share with someone with whom I have an especially large intersection.
Convincing myself that these discontinuities aren't terribly important isn't hard, but putting the sense of what happens when I find one into words is. This may seem silly, but it's really pretty recently that I came to comprehend the fact that, wow, other people don't all share my underlying principles -- and while I understand now, at least intellectually, that this is not the case, apparently I still don't have it all worked out intuitively.
This has been driven home a couple of different ways, this trip home: in disputes with my mother over how one ought to spend one's time at home, in retrospective conversations with friends about water long since under the bridge, in another (non-TMI, even) conversation that got aborted abruptly because the other party just didn't want to know about it, in a completely unexpected email from someone I once hurt very badly because I just couldn't understand where his motivations and goals differed from mine or indeed why they would at all.
(I am a terribly selfish person, but it hasn't always been on purpose.)
Anyway, universe, you have gotten your point across. We can move on to the next one now, thanks.
I'm unsettled, tonight, but it's the kind of instability that comes from stress-testing foundations and replacing the parts that need it. Perhaps I shall hang an "Under Construction" sign on my head for a little while. In the meantime, though, the world is entering a season of birth and growth; all things in their time, and perhaps this is the time for that.
Merry Christmas, all of you. I wish you health, happiness and understanding in the new year, not necessarily in that order.
(The above statement may itself be trivially true in most cases. The author chooses instead to invoke another time-honored principle and leave the proof as an exercise for the reader.)
So. The trivially true statement for this evening's exercise is: I tend to become friends with people who think along the same lines as I do.
If you were to chart out my friends based on the relative strengths of their Myers-Briggs types -- ignoring for the moment the conceptual difficulties of plotting anything in 4-space -- you'd see heavy clustering in the NT part of the graph. I suspect there would also be a strong tendency toward introversion, though I don't have any intuitions about how the P/J distribution would shake out. This is not too surprising; I generally test out as INTJ, but have come up INTP in the past. I find it easier to get along with people who tend toward detached evaluation. Big shocker, right? Right. The same can be said for hobbies and interests; throw me in a room with a bunch of random people, and as long as they're all talking, I'll find the hacker/gamer/libertarian/writer/what-have-you within a matter of minutes.
This is all, as I said, trivial.
I was lucky, in high school and my undergraduate years, to happen across people who had similar attitudes to mine not only in what they thought, but how they thought. I found friends who discovered patterns quickly; who had a talent for rapidly identifying the core questions in an essay, a math problem, a psychological situation, what-have-you; who enjoyed both the process of finding answers and the satisfaction of having-found. These people have become far, far rarer over the years, and the ones who don't have this mongoose-like ("Go and find out!" -- it's a Kipling reference) attitude often don't even understand what it is that's different between me and them. (When my last relationship ended, the ex in question remarked on our lack of "common interests" as a way of explaining to himself why we split up. On the surface, the assessment is accurate -- but it's such a surface assessment that just thinking about it makes me feel a bit sad.)
I don't click with a lot of people, but the ones with whom I feel the deepest kinship are my fellow mongeese. Mongooses. Whatever. It's comforting, this feeling of sameness; my brain recognises people-who-think-like-me as nonthreatening, as people around whom I don't have to keep my guard up, people to whom I don't have to explain my motivations because they already intuitively make sense.
The non-trivial bit is one of degree. (I really should have said "usually already intuitively make sense," above.) Rabbit holes (cobra holes?) may go down a long damn way, sometimes forever, and everyone stops at different places. My stopping points are never going to be identical to another person's stopping points, even if our sets have a large intersection, and it's especially jarring when I discover a point that I don't share with someone with whom I have an especially large intersection.
Convincing myself that these discontinuities aren't terribly important isn't hard, but putting the sense of what happens when I find one into words is. This may seem silly, but it's really pretty recently that I came to comprehend the fact that, wow, other people don't all share my underlying principles -- and while I understand now, at least intellectually, that this is not the case, apparently I still don't have it all worked out intuitively.
This has been driven home a couple of different ways, this trip home: in disputes with my mother over how one ought to spend one's time at home, in retrospective conversations with friends about water long since under the bridge, in another (non-TMI, even) conversation that got aborted abruptly because the other party just didn't want to know about it, in a completely unexpected email from someone I once hurt very badly because I just couldn't understand where his motivations and goals differed from mine or indeed why they would at all.
(I am a terribly selfish person, but it hasn't always been on purpose.)
Anyway, universe, you have gotten your point across. We can move on to the next one now, thanks.
I'm unsettled, tonight, but it's the kind of instability that comes from stress-testing foundations and replacing the parts that need it. Perhaps I shall hang an "Under Construction" sign on my head for a little while. In the meantime, though, the world is entering a season of birth and growth; all things in their time, and perhaps this is the time for that.
Merry Christmas, all of you. I wish you health, happiness and understanding in the new year, not necessarily in that order.